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明朝那些事儿7:大结局

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  1. 匿名说道:

    为啥不让下载呢 ?

  2. 匿名说道:

    明朝到底亡于什么?内忧?外患?天灾?人祸?经济危机?······

  3. 匿名说道:

    明的两个转折点,1,正德被弑,文官集团与张永合谋成功后嫁祸江斌;2,明亡于李成梁为后代谋类唐节度使而养养子为寇自重。

  4. 黑社会说道:

    好书

  5. 董强说道:

    往事可堪回首)

  6. 匿名说道:

    必然与偶然的巧合

  7. 139说道:

    必然与偶然的巧合

  8. 匿名说道:

    看了四遍了!有时间再看一遍!

  9. 匿名说道:
  10. Pdq.说道:

    气数己尽,人老必死!自燃规律。

  11. 138说道:

    当代赶不上明代,

  12. 本质过程意义说道:

    天道有常,不为尧存,不为桀亡;为学日益,为道日损,损之又损

  13. 匿名说道:

  14. 匿名说道:

    匿名

  15. 匿名说道:

    In theory, perhaps the most interesting books should be about history, with its rich inventory of intriguing people and stories. But in reality, fewer people than you’d expect care to sit down and spend some quality time reading tales about the past. Part of the reason might be that the books are either too academic and serious to enjoy, or too legendary to be true. However, a book entitled Ming Chao Na Xie Shi’er or The Ming Dynasty, has changed the Chinese reading public’s opinion on history books. The bestselling series has retold the official history of the Ming Dynasty of some four to seven hundred years ago with added humor and less jargon. Shan Shan has more.

  16. 匿名说道:

    Broadcasting time: 2007-11-07

    Hello, everyone! Welcome to another edition of “In the Spotlight”.

    Cover of  history book Ming Chao Na Xie Shi’er. [Photo: zsweilai.com]

    In theory, perhaps the most interesting books should be about history, with its rich inventory of intriguing people and stories. But in reality, fewer people than you’d expect care to sit down and spend some quality time reading tales about the past. Part of the reason might be that the books are either too academic and serious to enjoy, or too legendary to be true. However, a book entitled Ming Chao Na Xie Shi’er or The Ming Dynasty, has changed the Chinese reading public’s opinion on history books. The bestselling series has retold the official history of the Ming Dynasty of some four to seven hundred years ago with added humor and less jargon. Shan Shan has more.

    Reporter:
    Name: Zhu Yuanzhang,
    Nicknames, Zhu Chongba and Zhu Guorui.
    Sex: Male
    Ethnicity: Han
    Blood type: N/A.
    Education: No diploma. Self educated in later years.
    Occupation: emperor.

    These are the first lines of the first volume of our featured book series, Ming Chao Na Xie Shi’er, or The Ming Dynasty. It’s actually the résumé of the first emperor of China’s ancient Ming Dynasty. Don’t take it for granted that this is the beginning of a fictional novel. It’s not.

    Writer Dangnian Mingyue intended to produce an entertaining effect.

    “I used to study the historical influence of the ancient School of Mind philosophy founded by Wang Shouren of the Ming Dynasty. You can feel your head growing twice as big once you hear such enigmatic words, can’t you? What I am trying to say is that sometimes, you need a different approach to tell an interesting history. Although such efforts may not be helpful to academic studies, they could be effective to excite the public knowledge about history. To sum it up, it’s a question of methodology, of how to tell the story from a proper angle.”

    This is Dangnian Mingyue, a name the writer uses in the cyber world. His real name is Shi Yue. But let’s just call him Mingyue, as his fans do.

    The 28-year-old works as a government functionary from 9 to 5. The rest of the day, he is a history lover and writer. His books were originally entries he posted in an online forum.

    These posts have invited millions of online clicks. That drew the attention of the publishers. Shen Haobo is the publisher of the Ming Dynasty series. He learned of the online posts in May 2006.

    “I found the online posts, and read them for a whole night. I didn’t have to finish reading all of them to be able to tell that it would be something awesome if published.”

    Why? As both a reader and a publisher, Shen Haobo doesn’t hesitate to say he is interested and entertained by Mingyue’s writings.

    “Nobody has ever written something about history the way he did. It’s original, dramatic, visual, straightforward, and it connects with the readers. It’s a very good way to approach the reading public. He is a genius. He is also able to offer an insightful and understandable analysis of the intricate official ecology of the Ming Dynasty.”

    There is certainly something about the Ming Dynasty that inspired Mingyue to write about it in a unique style.

    “First of all, the Ming dynasty is an interesting part of Chinese history. And secondly, there is an abundant pool of historical data. There is plenty of room for relevant studies. That period is also a great reference on how China has come as far as it has.”

    That part of Chinese history is also one of the reasons Mingyue’s books catch on among the Chinese reading public. Mao Peiqi, a professor of history at Beijing-based Renmin University, analyzes the trend.

    “First of all, I think it’s because the vast Chinese public didn’t know much about the Ming Dynasty. And in my point of view, that’s because there were so few books that catered to their reading interest. As a result, there turned out to be a huge number of readers who would go for Mingyue’s books. And secondly, people have never expected that history books could be so readable and enjoyable as Mingyue has made them. History became accessible under Mingyue’s pen.”

    Mingyue’s simple and interesting way of telling stories has captivated readers, arousing their interest and desire to read on. This approach is also well-received within academic circles. Professor Mao again:

    “China is a country with a historical tradition, where many people pay a lot of attention to history. Everybody has the right to learn it, and from different angles, of course. But for a long time, the public didn’t know much about what happened during the Ming Dynasty. So I think it’s a good thing that Dangnian Mingyue is now able to adopt a simple and clear language to retell the Ming dynasty history to the public.”

    Professor Mao adds, history can allow such personal approaches as long as the writer respects historical facts.

    “All along, there have been different approaches to writing about history. There are chronicles, biographies, textbooks and documentaries. But there are no rules as to which ones are the right ones and which ones are not. The core is the history itself. The bottom line is that nobody should distort or misinterpret the history. ”
    Professor Mao Peiqi doesn’t have to worry about Mingyue, as publisher Shen Haobo explains.

    “He has a precision as a writer. He goes very far in this regard; sometimes, a little extreme. He only takes reliable sources as references.”

    Plus, 15 years of extensive history studies have enabled Mingyue to write with skill and ease. He does a great deal of research before committing the first characters of his book. Sometimes the same story might have as many as seven different versions, so one should know what’s best to select.

    From a government worker writing in cyber space to a published author, Mingyue doesn’t feel life has changed much, except he has more interviews and exposure. He seems to enjoy his new status.

    “It’s an enormous recognition for what I have done to have my own books published. This is also an invaluable experience. There are numerous talented people in the world. I am just lucky. But I believe one doesn’t have to become a professional researcher or historian to study history. What matters is that you put history in your heart. The joy you can get from it is the most important thing as far as I’m concerned.”

    The Ming Dynasty series, now in its fourth volume, has sold more than two million copies. Mingyue says he still has 100 years to write about the Ming Dynasty. But as to whether he will someday write about other ancient Chinese dynasties, he says, well, let’s wait and see.

    Thank you, Shan Shan. And coming up next, let’s get musical with Jay Chou’s songs. Don’t go away!

     

  17. 展恩国!说道:

    我特别喜欢后记!喜欢里面的几个人物名气大的就是王守仁!其实我想只一个王守仁就够写一本书!小

  18. 弦外知音说道:

    明朝的风雨,王朝的颠覆,摇摆的政权,落地成灰烬,尘埃飘散!!

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  22. 大明在八闽说道:

    大明之亡 亡于成祖 迁都幽燕 东南无法跳式发展 时中国精华尽在东南 若都在南京 则民智提前大开 民主开化 资产阶级产生 科技发展 国力强大 大明焉能亡矣 中国起会落后于欧美

  23. 路过说道:

    23楼,明朝亡于太祖啊。

  24. 匿名说道:

    24楼,明朝亡于元朝

  25. 道家小说说道:

    茅山后裔www.maoshanhouyi.cc 精彩的道家小说

  26. pp说道:

    诸葛亮的马前歌写得很清楚,明朝花开十六叶,南明早已无明“气”了。国家气数发于瞬,衰于逝。跟人身体一样,青春期身体发育至巅峰,随着年龄增长,时间流逝身体逐渐衰亡。也有因横祸早亡的。这其实跟熵也关。

  27. 匿名说道:

    vhvh

  28. 匿名说道:

    让下载了谁还看广告?

  29. longchamp soho说道:

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  31. zhouman说道:

    seowhy-1.com

  32. ajbdk.说道:

    这不仅仅是历史书,它还是一本哲学书,很好看

  33. 局外人说道:

    对于可利用的,主动真示好的,和中间派,绝不得罪,尽量拉拢。(魏忠贤本有意与东林党交好,在一起,同一船,而党人自傲惹祸)无黑无白,天地本混沌,正邪一并,人心亦复杂,唯逐利之心,一也。(没有绝对好人,如张居正、东林党。也没有绝对坏蛋,如齐楚浙三党、魏忠贤,唯有永恒的利益;要学会体顾他人的利益,那碗饭可以减量,但不能打碎,逼上悬崖,只会鱼死网破,我想相互妥协才是出路,不要认死理,黑白、正邪、君子小人,本来相生相克,浑然一体,这也是符合辩证法的,故我认为切莫固执,切莫片面,分清利益关系,实是剧情主线)

  34. 秋之子夜说道:

    靡不有初,鲜有克终。历史必定是悲剧的,不然,也不会剧终,但是,历史由我们创造,切不要悲观,出一份力,努力一把,干他娘的!

  35. 秋之子夜说道:

    靡不有初,鲜有克终。历史必定是悲剧的,不然,也不会剧终,但是,历史由我们创造,切不要悲观,出一份力,努力一把!

  36. Nahlak说道:

    Me and this article, sitting in a tree, L-ENA-R-N-I—G!

  37. 匿名说道:

    22楼的不知道就不要瞎说,成祖 迁都北京那是正确的决策,要不是迁都北京明朝恐怕还没等有资本主义萌芽的时候就早灭了那会有276年。自古以来只有半壁江山才会定都南京,统一天下的话必在北京这是多少杰出政治家们的英明决策,像伟人毛泽东主席等等一些天才人物都明白这个道理,我看你是白看这部书了,回去在好好翻翻关于于谦的那几章好好看看,最看不惯这种自己愚蠢还打肿脸装B的人,总感觉自己比成祖这样的杰出帝王还高明一样,蠢材也也不撒泡尿照照自己

  38. 我懂作者的悲伤说道:

    凡事兴衰的标准都是看有没动大了地方官的奶酪,地方政府这群老辣的狐狸,自古民不与官争,否则最后被整的十有八九是弱势群体的百姓,强弱在那很正常的自然法则。就像公司高管与底层员工最终就是老百姓用自己的方法消极抵抗另类维权,最后朝廷上面腐败下面颓散直至灭亡。上面想管动他们是有环境阻力的,地方官才是皇帝老百姓多是老老实实挨宰,被宰的实在受不了了就出现了社会动荡。好比现在的河蟹社会就像国际最大言论自由社交网站“非死不可”与最大视频网站“推特儿”等在国内被封就是铁证,这样来让国民智力变得不开化变得不太维权够听话,否则某鹿一倒大家都不在国内买奶粉了怎么办必须要有平民愤背黑锅的也必须要有搞公关麻痹群众的最终结果大家知道所有奶粉里多少都会有某某但是也妥协了从国内买了,不过官方大力推行国民老实化教育也不过是延长他们的统治时限罢了,该来的还是会来兴衰更替是历史必然的,至于为什么这个现象会是必然的以及什么情况下这个必然可能会被打破下面我会讲。
    不容否认历史的主体是人,而是人就会有私心有欲望这是人性,开始的平衡不会太久待到人们熟悉环境后必然会出现变化,时间一长将领黑腐,小兵油滑,朝廷都是这么腐败垮台的。开始底层兵或老百姓是傻干活傻干活的(所以一般开国时期都是一片凝聚的),可是不久官员就会黑腐,时间一长老百姓自然也不是傻子,正常方式又没办法争取权益,慢慢的就会朝另一方面发展,最后就是大家一起完蛋。特权思想,这个世界上只要人有私欲只要有官僚体制(监管机构最终也是官权机构你看哪个媒监不是服从于国家相关总局)那就必有腐败必有灭亡。
    一句话,无论官民,时间一长,大家都想利用自己的优势都不想当傻子。而国家再厉害也没办法把百姓打回吃禁果之前的亚当夏娃。那么,我们这个世界的光明在哪里呢。
    有人会说法制社会,健全的法制。但我遗憾的告诉你这是不可能的,就像一个问题的解决方案最终还是会回到问题的起点一样。法律归根到底还是人制定的最后用来约束于人,可惜人类不是傻子。有些事表面看感觉行也不难,但是事实绝对没那么简单。比如很多事正因为政策空白制度漏洞地方官有了更大的权利而制度过多有成了当权者的游戏。当代社会提出把权利放到制度的笼子里,这无疑是一个非常英明正确的决定。但问题在于制度更新和补丁的速度远远比不上制度的破解速度,所以全局来看腐败始终会不可避免的积累,因为制定制度的是一小群人而破解制度的是一大群人,一旦更新速度与破解速度差距太大时,不可避免的就只有系统崩溃一种结局。所以最终治标不治本。
    于是问题又踢了回来。有的人会说,以德治国,咳咳,这个问题我就不多说了我只能说这是一种梦想。人本身就是一种矛盾体,任何一个人身体里都会并存着天使和恶魔。有人又说无为而治,可所有人都那样一盘散沙怎能强大。
    那光明又该在哪里,我个人觉得几百年前王守仁前辈已经替我们想好了这个问题的答案,国以良知治,而人人皆以良知而自治。正如所有问题的解决最终都会回到起点,社会发展最终要解决的问题还是人的问题,国家世人需以良知修炼锻造新一代人民。人人都非常具备自知自觉和责任感无需赏罚,人们的素质空前提高最后达到一个天理与人欲的平衡。
    最终人们皆以高素质而自发形成秩序破除利弊以心为之,最终达到一种人人平等无权而治的社会,实现真正的公仆和真正的人人为主,人各有性各展为之各自度守各显价值。所有信息分级公开化,对于官员可以给予相应特利但是也要承担相应责任(如明朝的官员事越大高层官员黑锅越大)并且应该是利己不损人的,官场完全市场化竞争化,但这里的货币不是钱而是能力以及良知力。这才是最终最稳定的社会形态。
    所以我觉得作者先不用那么悲观,大局来看,历史虽然有时候会倒退但始终是在进步的,就像现在社会就已经比较开放了,国民开始思考言论开始自由,正如我今天在这里一样。我觉得这就是曙光虽然也会有黑暗也会波澜不断,但正如你的结束语,相信未来。

  39. 我懂作者的悲伤说道:

    制度更新补丁的速度永远比不上制度破解的速度

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